This is the what the preamble of the Indian constitution states:-
WE, THE PEOPLE OF INDIA, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a SOVEREIGN SOCIALIST SECULAR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC and to secure to all its citizens:
JUSTICE, social, economic and political;
LIBERTY of thought, expression, belief, faith and worship; EQUALITY of status and of opportunity; and to promote among them all
FRATERNITY assuring the dignity of the individual and the unity and integrity of the Nation; IN OUR CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY this twenty-sixth day of November, 1949, do HEREBY ADOPT, ENACT AND GIVE TO OURSELVES THIS CONSTITUTION.
Nothing can be further from the truth. India today has become Islamic republic of India.Secularism means total independence of state and religion. In India it means just being pro-muslim. Anybody who knows anything about Indian politics today would know it for a fact that a "secular" party means a party which is against Hindu-Nationalists and would fight it tooth and nail to keep them away from power. Infact anybody who is sympathetic to the cause of Hindus/Sikhs is instantly dubbed as a "Right Wing Fanatic". However, these (pseudo) secularist find it decidedly convenient to hob-nob with the fundamental elements from the muslim community.UPA coalition which champions the cause of secularism in India has Muslim as one of its allies in Kerela !!! But ofcourse what else is secularism if not being pro-muslim?
Many of my friends and critics would accuse me of having a jaundiced vision ? I respect their views and am posting a few questions which I would like my "broad-minded & forward thinking" intellectual friends to answer. I would not censure any comments and would publish all.
Here are my questions:-
1. My first argument is based on two premises. a- India is a secular country and b- equality for its citizens. I can assume them to hold true given the fact that our constitution guarantees them.If these premises are true how come we have seperate rules for Jammu & Kashmir. Jammu and Kashmir has a seperate constitution , a seperate flag and constitution. When all the other princely states and regions have been fully integrated into the Indian union, why this aberration? Is it a co-incidence that Kashmir is a muslim majority state?
2. Why did we never have a Hindu Chief Minister in J & K when we have had a muslim chief minister in most of the other states ? Does it mean that the muslims are not broad minded enough to vote for a Hindu/Sikh? Statistics proof that muslim majority disctricts vote in a muslim candidate a whopping 97% of times. A coincidence?
3. This one irks me the most. Muslims get hajj subsidy to visit Mecca. They are provided heavily subsidised air tickets, free accomodation in Mecca and the best of medical facilities there.All funded by the tax paid by the Hindu Majority. There is even a special Hajj Terminal at the Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi .There are Hajj commities in all major Indian cities so that the muslims do not have to bear the inconvenience of travelling to the Metroes for paperwork.
What does the Indian government do for the Hindus and Sikhs? Nothing!!! The government could provide the Amarnath Shrine committee with enough land and shamelessly bowed before the kashmiri muslims. Sample this. Hindus get no subsidy for kailash mansarovar pilgrimage. The trek to the holy lake is difficult and the terrain is trecherous. Indian government which provides the best medical facilities to the Indian muslims during Hajj and flies in highly trained doctors to ensure it , does not provide Hindus even the basic medical facilities.
3. Indian government wants to lift the ban on SIMI !!! Need I say more?
4. Why are all terrorists muslims? I would broaden the scope of this questions as Islamic terrorism is not limited to India but is a world wide malaise now. Why are we in denial ? What do we not admit that India is grappling with this when most other countries around the world have taken a cognizance of the situation ?
5. This should have been the very first question? Inspite of having an overwhelming Hindu Majority why is India a pro-muslim country. I have already established that it is not secular.
6. Why do we go that extra mile in accomodating muslims. There are millions of illegal bangladeshi muslims in all major cities of India. Yet the government does not throw them out because they are muslims. These bangladeshi muslims have been instrumental in most of the bomb blasts in the past couple of years.
7. A gurudwaara was razed to ground in Pakistan and temples were demolished in kazakhstan.Indian government didn't even lodge a protest either in official forum or otherwise. However, the congress government was the among the first in the world to condemn the danish cartoons of the Mohammed in the strongest terms. And to think about it ,it wasnt even an Indian issue. The fact that muslims in India rioted in protest of the cartoons and killed and looted Hindus is another matter all together.
8. Why does the government always talk of gujarat riots and about burning alive of sixty hindus which were the immediate cause for the riots? Does it mean that government would rather have hindus as the victims ?
9. Why does the government take no steps to repatriate the Kashmiri Pandits. Kashmiri Hindus were thrown out of their own land. They still live in deplorable conditions with no succour from the government. It does not even condemn those riots. Why?
Take a look at this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCRFWStxV_4
10. Why are anti-terror laws not implemented. The congress dubs them as "anti-minorities". There rests my case.
11. Finally
Why Do Muslims have a problem with Hindus ? Incidents allover India for over 1500 years bear witness to this fact.
Why Do muslims hate christians?
Why Do muslims hate the Jews?
Why Do muslims hate the Buddhists? Destruction of Bamiyan Buddhas
Why Do they hate Sikhs? Killed their Gurus and their children.
Any Answers?
If Islam is Indeed a peaceful religion , How come all terrorists are muslims (okay only 96 % yeah yeah I know)?
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All bullshits...
Writer does not know the meaning of Secularism in law and Constitution. He is misleading readers. Read the Indian Constitution and Constitutional laws in detail.
Why do muslims hate hindus, sikhs, christians?
They hate everyone or everything which is non muslim. What religion teaches them is who ever is non muslim is your enemy. How sadistic a religion can be, which preaches such thoughts. I studied at a minority college myself. And of all the incidents of hate that i have seen during four years of my stay, there is one that i would like to share with the readers. It was the time of Diwali, and the hindu students were kicked out of the hostels blaming that they burst fire crackers during diwali. The college authorities when approached kept there mouth shut being muslim management.
This incident tells me that they have a problem with every other religion, what they want is an islamic world, where they want to see everyone bending over a couple of times a day.
There are two reasons that i see which are most responsible 1. Lack of fundamentalism in the hindus. 2. Our political parties have votes on there agenda all the time not the terror. As long as we have corrupted roots, the fruit will be rotten.
this should be named as HOW TO MAKE FUN OF SECULARISM WITH ONES PERCEPTION..
this is extremly misleading article with unauthnetic or no refrences...a creation of half baked bised knowledge
@krishh
@adill
@nemesis of state
y don u all jus shut up ur rotten ass huh???
all the points the author has written is absolutely true especially the HAJ subsidy....
instead of blindly opposing him for the sake of pseude secularism y don u counter his boints based on facts..??
i bet my wealth u cant...so stop whining u losers....
@adil : your behavior proves my point that muslims are not tolerant
@krish: well you seem to know a lot.why dont you answer the questions posted here rather than whining. I welcome good objective debate
@All : If you disagree with the post , instead of getting all worked up for nothing , please write down your "counter-argument" here.
Comments like the one from Kriish will draw nothing but ridicule. The post says Indian consitution says India should be Secular and he calls it bullshit and claims that the author does not know anything about the constitution. Yes I do not know about the Pakistani constitution but the preamble of Indian constitution as mentioned in the post is correct.
dear Kriish,
I don't know how much money do these psuedo secularists or muslim leaders pay you for these selecive vision. But, just ask the raletives of those killed in 1993 Mumbai blasts, 2005 Delhi Blasts, 2006 Varanasi Blasts , 2006 Mumbai Train Blasts , 2007 Hyderabad Blasts , 2007 Lucknow, Ayodha & Faizabad Blasts , 2008 Jaipur Blasts, 2008 Bangalore Blasts, 2008 Ahmedabad Blasts , 2008 Delhi Blasts hw does it feel to lose your dear ones in Terror attacks.
IN case u stay abroad, just ask your American/ British Friends hw much " Love" they show to thr muslim brothers ( US - Muslims are strip searched before entering the country ; UK- After 2005 London Bombings , have treated muslims with much more toughness than what we do so now )
Your lack of knowledge about India is evident from the fact that you made no mention aboout the recent Amarnath Shrine issue or The Erudite Syed Ahmed Geelani's comments in leading dailies against " Jana Gana Mana " or " Vande Mataram ", which are not Hindu songs. OR his comments - " Kashmir Ki Mandi, Rawalpindi " etc. etc.
Kindly show some common sense before degrading Hindus and praising Islamic Terrorism.
Well Said Mainak ..But I already know their(pseudo-secularists) response.They will come up with their trump card : Gujarat riots. If that is the case , please allow me to retort. Gujarat was a retaliation.Muslims torched a train compartment thereby killing 60 hindu pilgrims (which included very young children and women). Don't Hindus have a right to retaliate ? Even Bhagwad Gita says " Shatham prati Shathyet" meaning do unto them what they do unto you.
Translation : Thus ever to tyrants.
How can we just wish away the past 1500 years of muslim tyranny ? Don't you see that none of our temples were spared. Somnath ...mathura. ..kashi ...ayodhya ..Nalanda university..you name it.
Why even go that far ...Bamiyaan Buddhas !!!
Well, Islam is the most misinterpreted religion they say.
But then all religions are misinterpreted in some way or the other.
I do not know why other religions have less number of fools following misinterpretations and Islam has more of such numbers.
Very well said mainak.
@gunny: What misinterpretation is this that means bombing the innocent i wonder.
The night after delhi blast i happened to be at Ganga ram hospital delhi. I saw the victims being brought there and their family shedding tears waiting outside the casualty praying for their lives.
Had our government thought about the people we would have had stringent anti terror laws. As the article said anti terrorist here means anti minority which means loss of minority vote.
Dude !!! i think either you have hell lot of time to think or you don't want to think ....
As i understand, the real problem is not muslim,It's terror....haven't you heard of BODO, ULFA etc ??? are those ppl muslim ... no i don't think so ..... at least you must have heard about LTTE ??? How do you justify what bajrang dal and shiv shena works do to people from bihar in mumbai ...
The world's economy failing ... Flood in bihar ... UP flooded ... thousands of people killed but you are there writing these articles ...and you walk along with your friend throwing litter on the roads and discussing hindu-muslim issues ...???
No offense , but i think there are broader issues which we should pay attention to ...!!!!
An indian (not a hindu, not a muslim). Also posting it as anonymous .. not because I can't justify what i have written but because i feel that this is too irrelevant to discuss.
@anonymous :
Dude [you sound more of the hip-hop types so lemme just follow in the same vein]!!! I dont think You get it. I never said there werent other problems in India. There are.
But thats besides the Point [under discussion]. I never claimed that there were no other militants. See point number 11. Only 96%.
And as far as I can remember The zone of influence of ULFA or such organizations is limited to the north east and is not such a wide spread malaise.And perhaps you forget that ULFA and much of the northeastern militancy receives logistical support from the Jehadis from Bangladesh.
Maybe you will have better arguments Next time. CHILL DUDE!!! YO!!!
So Mr Anonymous you are saying that this issue is too irrelevant to discuss. And a better topic would be world economy falling, and the article should be The Fall of the Lehman Brothers. One question for you : What about the economy of the house who's only earning member died in a bomb blast? If you can answer this, i will keep my mouth shut.
No offense "An Indian(not a hindu, not a muslim)" sounds too filmi.
Good article dude !! KUDOS !!!
We need more people like you ! Keep up the god work :)
@vikas : Come on man ..Mr. Anonymous doesnt have time to waste on these trivial issues. He wants to sit in his living room , grabbing a beer and discuss world economics.These are exactly the kind of people who Vote congress to power. Pseudo Secularists.
@nemesis
Actually there are so many people like our Mr anonymous who think the same. And this is what exactly i meant when i said hindus(non muslims) lack fundamentalism in one of my comments above. If the problem is terror and not muslim, than why is it that the terrorist groups get financial aid from all muslim groups all over the world. Everyone saw the shoot out in which delhi blast accused was shot and two other arrested, students of jamia. If its terror and not the muslim why does the university wants to provide them legal aid. For what joy do they want to help the terrorists? For them are the accused terrorists or muslims?
Well I agree with author on most of the points .. Muslim Appeasement politics is ruining our great country ... we should not tolerate acts of terrorism. What to expect from govt which is against banning SIMI... I would like to share an expereince ... I was discussing the religion with a muslim colleague. He told me that when Khuda created Man there was a test. The ones who passed the test became muslims and rest were non- followers. The problem with Muslims (in general) is that they have very less tolerance towards other religions. This mindset needs to be changed.
Voilence in the name of religion is the most foolish thing some one could do.
I support each and every point of the author, we are nowadays nothing but a victim of the terrorism led by Muslims only and our vote bank mentality is driving us towards worse situation...
I don't understand how one can accept an illiterate person as their prophet..I mean Mohamed..all the problem starts from there when you follow someone who is born to spread hatred.
all,bloody political issues................not of my knddddddd
here is a mail which a friend of mine sent to me in response to this post :--
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I also sense that while most people might think that you are a fanatic Hindu Nazionalist, I see your posts as calling for a basic sensibility. India is fast becoming the world's most dangerous place to live in now. The magnitude of terror that strikes India is astronomical when compared to that suffered by any other nation. Unfortunately however, we are not a recognized superpower and we cannot attack the Muslim world for terror strikes like America struck Afghanistan and Iraq in response to 9/11 (which in my opinion is also stupid). Hindus would not have trouble with Muslims if they learn to live in India peacefully.
Why should Hindus tolerate the Muslims? If Muslims can't tolerate even the slightest negative portrayal of their religion, why should Hindus or Sikhs tolerate all the insult and dirt hurled upon them? I am not a passionate Hindu. It does not matter much to me. But other Hindus can be sensitive to this. If Muslims expect Hindus to be sensitive to their feelings, then they should be sensitive to Hindu feelings as well. A government that calls itself 'secular' and appeases Muslims at the expense of others is plain hypocritical.
A further point that I would make is that the citizen should have sovereignty over religion. In the US, religious places of worship are damned silent. If you are noisy, you will be arrested, even if locals don't complain. But in India, everyone makes a hell of a noise in the name of religion, whether Hindu, Muslim, Christian or any other. They act like a bunch of clowns. Why can't one celebrate a festival quietly? The taxpaying citizen pays to clean up all the mess.
I don't understand which one is a bigger mess. But someone has to clear this up. Radically thinking people, who will never give up, are the ones that can lead India to a better future. Unfortunately a position of power can give anybody a sense of infallibility and invincibility. I hope such radically thinking people are responsible and disciplined.
I agree that Terrorism in any form is not good for society be it muslims, caste based killings or for any other regional/social reasons.
Being secular means that live and let live and be sensitive to other peoples feelings. This does not mean that don't raise your voice when some wrong is getting done agianst you.
Writer is correct in pointing out that governments in India have been just playing a political game by not being hard on any terrorists. It is not only muslim terrorism, even Naxalites, marcxists have increased their activities in our country. We need a strong government which can take some hard decisions to get life back on track for all of us.
Terrorism, economic meltdown, environment changes - all these things are bad for every one and can affect any one.
Time has come for all of us to take action instead of just discussing about these problems.
I would like to open this forum for all to contribute in terms of what should be done to address these issues.
Don't think about these in terms of your religion, country and personal preferences. Just be plain selflish and think about it.
It impacts all of us one way or another.
Just go through this blog..Most of your ill conceived perceptions will be cleared.
http://badamwaer.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html
i have not at all read what the other commmentators have said ....
i am of the same thoughts.
there is no secularism in india.
there is only the favouritism in india for the muslims.
Wah Wah Wah..... Wht a one sided Article.....
Dude get ur Info right before writing...
Now for the facts,
Tell me how much does the Government of India charge for Hajj Pilgrimage Per Person?
How Much Subsidy does one get?
What is the standard of Stay, If traveled by Hajj Committee?
Are meals/beverages Included in the package?
Now answer this.
An average Private operator charges 85K all Inclusive, food, Visa, Air tickets, accommodation in in 3 star for 85K, Local transport, Guide, Tour Manager plus a Indian cook along with the group all for 85 K....
I dunno the current price for Hajj 2009 from Haj Committee will let you about it.
Now dont delete this post answer this if u have so much of knowledge and i will tell about the subsidy piece.....
@Rikhat : If the government of India spends just one rupee on the subsidy per person why does it only do it for the muslims. What about sikhs and their pilgrimage for Pakistan ? What about Hindus and Kailash Mansarovar ?
You answer these And you will have your answers.
Dear Brothers,
We'll seriously get into trouble for asking for more rights for hindus , who are the " oppressors " and the muslims - who have been " given second class treatment in their own country ". After all, how can we forget the contribution of Azamgarh - " Abu Salem , Abu Bashir " or the contribution of Jamia Millia Islamia - " Atif , Zeeshan etc. " in the contribution towards nation building ?
In fact, our leaders are justified - " Ram Vilas Paswan in asking for a muslim chief minister for Bihar in 2005 " , " Mulayam Singh and Laloo Yadav in removing ban on SIMI " , " Sachar committee for demanding reservations for muslims ( never mind that it is they, who chose to admit their pupils in these madrasas rather than Govt/ Private Schools ) " or for that matter - " Reservation for Muslims in IIT's ( next IIT's will become Jamias ) " etc. etc.
JAI HIND and hail " secularism " in India..
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